Luke Skywalker is Dead! Kylo Ren Spoilers



Luke Skywalker is Dead
the Force is dead on this one

Speculation IV, possible spoilers

Luke is dead or dies eventually in the upcoming Starwars movies.

Starwars 7 is thirty years after "The Return of the Jedi", many great and terrible things have happened to Luke Skywalker according to the Starwars stories outside the films. Luke dying, is possible because the Jedi we know at some point died and joined the dark side of the Force as the apprentice of Darth Sidious 's clone. He was eventually turned to the light and formed the new age for Jedi.




Electrotherapy is the just one of the perks from the dark side, join us

Speculation V, possible spoilers

Luke Skywalker is actually Kylo Ren.

This became the most common assumptions when the poster came out following the absence of Mark Hamill. I doubt this will be the case it's like saying BB8 is actually a Sith lord all along.  An ultimate reveal is Starwars most notable twist since the original trilogy came out, so this relationship is very easy to speculate.


Kylo Ren Luke Skywalker
Who needs razor if you have a mask

In addition to this, Luke was almost tempted to join his father Darth Vader and succumb to the dark side later in the expanded universe of Starwars, Episode 7 might be the retelling of that story. Starwars 7 director JJ Abrams clarified that Kylo Ren is obsessed with Darth Vader and he is actually working for Supreme Leader Snokes, a significant dark side disciple.


Speculation VI,  major spoilers ahead

Kylo Ren will pave the way to Darth Caedus.

First we need to establish the family tree of the Skywalkers according to the history of the Starwars expanded universe.


Skywalker family tree


After Starwars VI, Luke Skywalker married his former assassin, Palpatine's servant Mara Jade, who stands with him all throughout the foundation of the new Jedi order. Luke and Mara gave birth to a son Ben Skywalker, named after Obiwan Kenobi.

The Solos had twins Jacen and Jaina, years later their youngest son Anakin was born, named after his grandfather. The Skywalker and Solo family stayed close until Luke and Mara Jade went away to stop the invasion of Yuuzhan Vong, unknown sentient beings.


your Force did not put food on this table sonny


Now all of Anakin Skywalker's grandchildren grew up in the same household and are strong with the force. They became adept in the ways of the Force on their own rights under the tutelage of both Mara and Luke during the establishment of new Jedi order.

In the expanded universe, the galaxy never had a time of peace and the next generations of Skywalkers had participated in forging their own legacies in the galactic strife. One of such arch had tragedies that paved the way to the path to the dark side of one member of the Solo family.


Fear my blade, shoo! bad doggies


Jacen spent his time in the frontlines leading to his captivity and torture, exposure to other ways of the Force plus his brother's death led him astray, closer to a more sinister path. Jacen embraced the dark side of the Force under Lumiya, a Sith master and became Darth Caedus. Caedus turned to the Skywalker family but was stopped by his own twin sister Jaina. Death of Luke Skywalker or Mara Jade here is a possibility. Although there is also a possibility that Kylo Ren is their younger brother Anakin Solo who "died " which can be misinterpreted as somebody who was reborn to be someone else  just like Anakin Skywalker.
Starwars VII - IX might be the retelling of the Skywalkers as if Jacen Solo is Kylo Ren and Jaina is Rey. Jaina Solo is a formidable force in the expanded universe just like Rey in this film,


because orange is easy on the eyes

Speculation VI,  major spoilers ahead

Kylo Ren as Ben Skywalker,

“Nothing will stand in our way. I will finish what you started.” - Kylo Ren

This dialogue from Kylo Ren gave away his endearment for Darth Vader.  JJ Abrams clarified that he is a fanatic hence the mask, black robes and red light saber but the director never revealed their relationship.


trust me Ben, she is not better with those hands
It can be related to the stories in Starwars Continuity, perhaps during the time when Luke forged an alliance with the Sith High Lord Sarasu Taalon. It was when a Force psychosis affected the jedi and sith where Ben was enamored by the sith's daughter Vestara Khai which draws Ben closer being sith. Luke having tempted by the dark side of the Force, his son suffering a similar fate and continue his grandfather's legacy is very possible.

These stories are based on the expanded universe, they are yet to be told in the Starwars films. One way or the other, the upcoming Starwars films is bound to intersect in these especially with Han and Leia as one of the principal cast.

How about Starwars TV series for mature audiences?

The Disney conglomerate is delivering Marvel stories into live action, I won't be surprised if someday Starwars drops to the Television too. Please let it not be for teens, something for mature audiences like The Walking Dead, or near quality of HBO's Game of Thrones. It may be just wishful thinking now, but Starwars characters have endured extreme hardships just look at the life of Anakin Skywalker.


Darth Vader
you can't smoke weed with this mask, my son

He was fatherless, victim of child labor, came back only to witness his mother's demise, betrayed by his mentor, found happiness, then his wife died with his children. That is tragic and beautiful story, maybe now is the time to put Starwars live action in the TV limelight?


>> continued from Speculations I-III

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